This is how freedom is measured, typically around the world by the UN and by most REPUTABLE sources.

1. How free are you to speak a POSITIVE mind, and within REASON, a negative one ?
And how much access to justice do victims have when you use your freedoms, in a way that victimizes others, and what constitutes victimization and how far can a claim of victimization go within the legal system ?

2. How free are you to practice religion without victimizing people with religion, and conversely, how free are other people AGAINST your religion ?

3. How free are you to advertise in a truthful and honest way ?
How much access to justice do victims of false or deceptive media have ?
What constitutes false and deceptive advertising, and how far can such claims go within the legal system ?

4. How free are you to associate with other people of your choosing ?
How much access to justice do victims of discrimination have ?
How far can claims of discrimination go, within the legal system ?
How much legal protection do people have against discrimination ?

5. How free are you to speak against (or in favor) the Government ?
And how free are you to vote and does your vote count as one vote ?
Can all adults vote ? What qualifies a person to vote ?
How free are you to run for political office, and what qualifies a person to be allowed to do so ?

6. How free are you to ask the Government for civil assistance ?
How available is civil assistance ? and are Government services safe and welcoming to use ?

7. Does the government provide all absolutely necessary humanities that sustain life and a quality of life ?

8.How free are you to Commute and Travel ?
How free are you to live in a populated, convenient urbanized area ?

9. How free are you to engage in Economic activity ? and How much workers rights do employees have ?

10. How free are you to be a minority ?
Do you have the freedom to be a Racial or Ethnic minority, a foreigner, or to be Disabled, or to be Homosexual, Bisexual, Asexual or to identify yourself as the opposite biological gender without being discriminated ?

11. How free are you to leave the country of your origin and return to your country of origin and spread and knowledge and experience gained from doing so ?

12. How free are you to live your life as you choose ?

13. What can the government do, or can't it do to enforce the law ?

That's generally how freedom is measured.

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This is where the USA scores on that.


1. The Government in the USA can KILL YOU, to enforce its laws.
The Government can also COMPLETELY blind you for DECADES, to societal and technological and academic and political change... to enforce its laws.

The police can MURDER you, and get away with it... to enforce the police officer's orders... whether or not you failed to obey the police orders, whether or not such orders are lawful in the first place.

2. Victims of verbal abuse, deceptive advertising, bullying, slander, defamation, racism, bigotry, discrimination and hate, very often have NO access to justice.
And people often have NO freedom against the religious beliefs of others.

3. The age to vote in the USA is 18 (on par with most westernized countries, but not the most free)..
And the USA's election system uses a convoluted system based upon location, designed to discredit, and disenfranchise people who live in lesser populated areas whether or not they constitute the majority of the citizenry.

4. You are free to be in a recognized minority group, but in being so you often have no access to justice.
You have NO freedom to live your life as you choose...
The Government dictates everything about everything from beginning to end.

5. You are NOT free to live in a large, populated urban, convenient area, because it is much too unsafe and unpleasant.

6. The Government does not provide Healthcare, and charges people for Utilities, and is very inadequate in providing public housing, and Government facilities are every bit as Unsafe and Unpleasant to utilize, as it is to be in PRISON in America.

And Unelected, hired, hourly wage earning government employees are in the USA are often Abusive, violent people.

7. You are not free to engage in Economically gainful activity to support yourself and in fact the Government employees are abusive and dictatorial and threatening and cruel to Business owners.

8. You are free to leave the USA but because of its lack of association with other countries, and its severe isolation, and difference from other countries, it is hard to enter other countries.

9. Getting assistance from the Government is so hard, that most people who need it, can't get it.

 

You think the UN is reputable?

 

Yes because the UN is the world, period.
Politically.

 

Yeppers, one world government politics are reputable....I dont think so.

 

Nobody cares what you think.
What matters is the one world government *which it isn't but you falsely claim that it is*
Who calculates the statistics about how well the countries function compared to others
(based on live data received in an objective manner) and sets rock bottom minimum international rules, rules which of course the USA violates...

The USA's examples to other countries of course has earned the countries that took the bait...
International sanctions, including sanctions FROM the USA itself, in a hypocritical fashion.

 

Everybody cares what I think and say, E.F. Hutton aint got shit on me.

Oh but yes it is.

Much of the superstructure and infrastructure for the physical edifice of a world government already have been built.

Besides putting in place a vast civil service of administrators and bureaucrats to run the planned world government, the ever-expanding UN system has created a huge global constituency of local and national politicians, corporations, and NGOs that benefits from the UN’s presence and can be counted on to lobby for its continued expansion.

Exactly, only promoting more 'fairness' and 'commonality' among countries.

 

Yes its the job of the people in the world to know what kind of a country that they are living in objectively, and to know what kind of country that they enter when they leave their country, and to promote the best circumstances possible.

 

Your reply does not even remotely rebut my reply, furthermore, if one wants to leave a country and relocate to another country, the UN statistics and such, will not make the deciding factor, more than likely, it will be made out of personal choice....weather, climate, environment so on and so forth.

The folks making their relocation will already know all they want to know about that country, because, they have already been there.

 

Most people move to the best circumstances, not to what somebody thinks is the best climate, which often isn't.
100 degrees Fahrenheit (37.7C) is painful and prone to violent storms, and most people will not, (and do not) move to that.
And most countries with that climate are 3rd world countries which also doesn't attract people.

 

You have moved yourself off on a wild tangent.

Did I make a claim that folks jump out of the frying pan into the fire?

 

Yes you did.
(weather, climate, environment so on and so forth.) which is YOUR way of saying that the tropics attract the most people, which is a false statement, both about what attracts people, and about it being the best climate, weather and environment... which it isn't.
Its Painful, and prone to violent storms, its often rural, high crime and poor and uneducated and destitute.

In fact Scandinavia is a very attractive place to be in Europe, as is Switzerland, most of which is in the Alpine zone of Europe.
Because the treatment that people receive there is among the best.

 

Dont ''assume'' what I am trying to say, obviously you were incapable of comprehending the ''so on and so forth'' part of the sentence;

Do you see it know?

 

Yes I read it.
And Yes what you said is false.

People move to where they are safe, and can most well off economically and the most reasonably free to go with that freedom... not to the place with only an opinion about what is the best climate.

 

Oh, so now there is a ''safe place'' in this world, did the UN tell you that?

The so on and so forth part of my comment did not in any fashion restrict reasons for a relocation, it merely added other reason, as intelligent as you claim that you are, I would have assumed that you would understand the differences.

Apparently, I was wrong in assuming...I wont make that mistake again.

 

Well, first of all, Shooter does care what Aces has to say.
He doesn't always agree with him, but he does care.
And say, Pantyhose, couple of questions;
First, where's your source for the UN standards you gave us here?
Second, you been ranting how great the USA is and fuck the rest of the world; how does that fit into this thread and your lopsided arguments?
Third, has your doctor checked your meds lately?
You seem to be a bit ............
trollish

 

Technologically, not politically.

 

I was also facing down a torrent of bullshit about how bad it is, that we have Gridiron football here, and claims that a much smaller, lighter, weaker person can take a head on collision with an NFL giant.
And insults towards American industry and Brands.
And also support for the bad guy in the Civil War.

 

Also, nobody cares what you care about either.

 

A lot of nobodies on here that nobody cares about.
The people that you need to have care what you care about or think, are the people who run the UN.